tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post8883392516484832622..comments2024-02-08T07:32:20.315-06:00Comments on Steve Bates - Yellow Doggerel Democratic Views: It Was The Hand Of ProvidenceSteve Bateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-53772309753747414512011-02-25T12:27:31.295-06:002011-02-25T12:27:31.295-06:00BTW, BadTux, I had fun in math classes. It's n...BTW, BadTux, I had fun in math classes. It's not impossible. :-)Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-83659761939859720342011-02-25T12:26:30.634-06:002011-02-25T12:26:30.634-06:00BadTux, you are allowed to remember just the good ...BadTux, you are allowed to remember just the good students and your successes with them. Every time a student succeeds because of a teacher's efforts, the world is a better place.Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-81892783342063841532011-02-25T12:23:50.419-06:002011-02-25T12:23:50.419-06:00"I still say that when learning you have to l...<i>"I still say that when learning you have to listen first and then talk." - Kay</i><br /><br />In my class, because of the nature of the subject, the students had to read and then <b>sing!</b> Their mouths were open when they sang, although if they hadn't practiced, sometimes they didn't open very wide. :-)Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-26966414136462384812011-02-25T01:44:38.988-06:002011-02-25T01:44:38.988-06:00I was a high school math teacher so I know my stud...I was a high school math teacher so I know my students didn't have a lot of fun, I did my best to pep up the material but there just isn't much "there" there, the students get there not knowing much mathematics and utterly confused about what mathematics is (because what's taught in K-12 is *not* mathematics, any more than a crescent wrench is a car -- it's just a random bag of tools *used* for mathematics), and while I think a few of them got it (one girl in particular did quite well at state rally -- uhm, yeah, she was both brown *and* a single mother, both of which add up to someone that the right-wing "family values" types apparently believe don't need an education), it's hard to overcome a lifetime of schooling in one year...<br /><br />So anyhow, enough of that. I'm not feeling like snarking anymore. I just feel sad.<br /><br />- Badtux the Former Teacher PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-2092506101422733362011-02-25T00:06:15.864-06:002011-02-25T00:06:15.864-06:00I learned a lot from those kids. I was in a huge ...I learned a lot from those kids. I was in a huge high school with a lot of what BadTux called brown students and those kids behaved better than the white kids. The funny part is, a couple years ago the UPS man knocked on my door and did a double take when I answered and said, "Hey! You were my teacher!" We talked a few minutes after he told me his name and teased me a little. That has happened more than a few times over the years and it's always a 'brown' student. My son says it's because they can spot a bigot in a heartbeat and I'm not one. I still say that when learning you have to listen first and then talk. It's always worked for me. Someday I'm going to do a blog about a writing assignment I gave them -- I don't know if they had fun but I sure did when I read them. Frankly, some of the teachers' attitudes annoyed me worse than the kids.Kay Dennisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02646717192332313215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-12234700280814400842011-02-24T22:51:59.790-06:002011-02-24T22:51:59.790-06:00BadTux, you're right, on every point. I'm ...BadTux, you're right, on every point. I'm glad I'm not a parent of Providence public school students; ultimately, those students will suffer worst from this, as the good teachers move elsewhere. I just hope there are enough solvent districts; RI is not a very big state.Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-80826974779429903972011-02-24T22:46:18.585-06:002011-02-24T22:46:18.585-06:00Kay, on the one hand, the economic problem is hard...Kay, on the one hand, the economic problem is harder for state governments because they can't print money... if the feral guvmint won't help them out, they must raise taxes or do without, and you know which one of those Republans will choose every time. On the other hand, cutting back public schools is sheer madness. Eliminating public schools would effectively reverse Americans' gains in basic education during the entire 20th century.<br /><br />BTW, I've taught sight-singing and ear-training to college freshmen and sophomores, and I can assure you students sometimes DO learn something with their mouths open. :-)Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-10269197564928643772011-02-24T21:43:39.354-06:002011-02-24T21:43:39.354-06:00Of *course* every one of those teachers is going t...Of *course* every one of those teachers is going to look for a new job immediately. That's what anybody does when they get a layoff notice. And the best of those teachers are going to have no problem finding better jobs either in the private sector or in better school districts, leaving this school district with, err, the dregs. Which, apparently, nobody minds, because this is apparently a majority-minority school district and everybody knows that the only schooling those brown children need is that which is provided by our prisons...<br /><br />-- Badtux the Former Teacher PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-872647804241988041.post-80497628570702162002011-02-24T19:43:23.564-06:002011-02-24T19:43:23.564-06:00Good Lord!!! What's next? I won't bother...Good Lord!!! What's next? I won't bother to talk about how I feel about the state of education in this country because most people think I'm nuts. Let's just say that I quit my student teaching because I can't teach if I can't discipline. Nobody ever learned anything with their mouth open. I used to tell the Dynamic Duo: "God gave you two ears and mouth because you're supposed to listen twice as much as you talk. No one learned anything with their mouth open."Kay Dennisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02646717192332313215noreply@blogger.com